| FTBL Unpopular Opinions You Have Regarding Alabama Football

TideatMileHigh

Thread Starter
Sideline Club
Joined
Jan 7, 2019
Messages
290
Reaction score
218
Points
0
Title is self explanatory. Mine:

I think had Bill Curry stayed in the long run after the 1989 season, Alabama would have not endured all the hardship of NCAA sanctions and on the field competition issues with Tennessee and Florida throughout the 1990s and potentially early 2000s. Why you ask? Curry was quite innovative with his offensive philosophy at Alabama that centered around a more pro-style offense. When Spurrier went to Florida in 1990 and introduced his run and shoot offense, it completely changed the way coaches had to prepare on game day. I think had Curry remained the head coach heading into the 1990s, Alabama would've been much better equipped to handle teams like Tennessee and Florida in 1990s. I love Gene Stallings, but his big issue was his over conservative offensive philosophy that was so conservative it made Marty Schottenheimer look like Bill Walsh. That strategy got Stallings in trouble against Florida and Tennessee.

Bill Curry was a competent recruiter and seemed to run a tight ship at Alabama. I think had he been overseeing the program in the 1990s, Alabama would've escaped a lot of those crippling sanctions it suffered during the decade. I think he would've been able to still recruit quality athletes that would have put Alabama in a much better position to compete against Florida and Tennessee. And finally, I think he would've been able to get even with the Cow College in the 1990s. After 1989, Auburn started to decline under Pat Dye and I think he would've gotten even with that second rate shit school.

Bear in mind I don't think Curry would've been some Bobby Bowden type of coach at Alabama in the 1990s. I think over the long term Alabama would've been able to maintain about 8-10 wins a season throughout the 90s under Curry, and I think it is still highly possible that Alabama would've still won a national championship sometime in the early 90s. The big point of my idea is that I think Alabama would've been much better equipped to compete on the field against the eventual premier programs of the SEC in the 1990s being Tennessee and Florida while also maintaining a healthy program that would've escaped getting probed by the NCAA.

Flame away, and I'm interested to see what you all have to say. I was born in 1994, so you older folks have much better insight as to things that were going on internal to the program that wouldn't be posted on Wikipedia.
 
Joined
Jul 28, 2015
Messages
3,613
Reaction score
1,731
Points
0
Bill Curry was too soft for Alabama football. Those that select failed when they selected Ray Perkins then really shit the bed on Curry. Coach Stallings would have been the best selection instead of Ray at the time since he was old school and that would have worked really well at that time. The fact they hired Bill over Bobby Bowden was a joke. F U Joab and your little cabal. Bama needed a tuff football coach and not a sales manager.
 

It Takes Eleven

Quoth the Raven...
Scholarship Club
Joined
Oct 13, 2004
Messages
28,200
Reaction score
2,108
Points
0
I think the way football programs like Bama keep a kid completely under wraps with a packed schedule - minders on academics, minders on workouts, minders on almost every aspect of their lives - stunt their adult development during that critical 18-22 window. If a kid came from a good environment, or for whatever reason they've matured mentally and emotionally before getting into school, then they may not be impacted. If it's a kid that the athletic department knows they better keep under their thumb or there will be a problem if allowed free time to make choices, then I question how that kid is allowed to develop.

Perhaps an unpopular opinion because I'm wrong, but it's crossed my mind a few times.

RTR,

Tim
 

TideatMileHigh

Thread Starter
Sideline Club
Joined
Jan 7, 2019
Messages
290
Reaction score
218
Points
0
Please, Log in or Register to view quote(s).
Well I'd say it depends on the kid like you say. I can understand why universities utilize control measures like that.

18-22 year old kids typically lack ambition in this day and age, and require a lot of stern mentorship, otherwise they'll either do the bare minimum or not do anything at all. When I was in the military I initially fucking hated the SNCOs and NCOs when I was an E1-E3. They were hard on us, but as I've gotten older (and got promoted) I realized they did so because they knew it would be for our betterment in the long run.
 

BamaFan334

Verified Member
Crimson Tide Club
Joined
Apr 16, 2013
Messages
7,798
Reaction score
2,430
Points
0
I've never been a fan of the blue shirt, grey shirt, green shirt, and kind of shirt other than red. To me it's as simple as hoarding stock and not letting anyone else have some. I am more upset with the fact that these guys are losing so much valuable time in their lives while they wait and push back their academic lives. The ones that don't start school or even practice with the team a year could be somewhere else thriving and right along with their academic careers. Deferring a year and most likely never taking the field at Alabama are not favorable in my opinion. To each their own, but I am not in favor of this NCAA rule allowing this stuff. All about the student athlete, right? Sounds to me it's just another way to keep talent from other programs and not caring about the kid.
 

TerryP

Cenosillicaphobiac
Ivory Club
Joined
Apr 5, 2006
Messages
43,555
Reaction score
10,539
Points
0
Please, Log in or Register to view quote(s).
Saban's 3-4 approach was new to the SEC when he arrived. Looking around the conference, how many teams are emulating his approach and not having the same type of succes we saw that approach have 5=6 years ago.? A lot.

His approach on defense was innovative when he arrived. It's now commonplace. While he sees fault in strength and conditioning, I'm wondering if we need to see a change on defense like we saw with the offense. An innovative approach, new to what offenses have seen.

Or, as I've also suggested, is it simply a case of the era we're in? There's no arguing it's a QB driven sport now. One has to be elite at that position. Defenses, more often than not, fail against elite quarterbacks.
 

bamachine

Master Debater
Century Club
Joined
Jul 25, 2015
Messages
1,908
Reaction score
914
Points
0
I own absolutely nothing with the claimed number of titles on it. Aside from maybe some gameday cups. All titles are mythical prior to the CFP, for every program. Does not mean I did not enjoy watching Bama beat PSU in '79, Arky in '80, whip Miami in '93, watch them beat Texas from the corner in the Rose Bowl stadium in '10, from the nosebleeds of the Superdome gain revenge against LSU in '12, whip the snot out of ND in '13. I enjoyed all of those but the titles are just as mythical as all of the USC, OU, ND, Texas, etc claimed titles throughout the years.
 

jdpas29

Verified Member
Bama Club
Joined
Sep 29, 2007
Messages
2,720
Reaction score
564
Points
0
We need to run more plays on 4th down when inside the 45 and outside the 20 or so. That is until we have a more consistent kicking game.
 

RollllTide!

HEY Get up your killing the grass!
Bama Club
Joined
Dec 14, 2006
Messages
3,940
Reaction score
908
Points
0
Defense has always been the best offence to win games and championships. If your opponent can't score, your offense doesn't have to be great.
 

Tidestalker

Bama Club
Joined
Jul 26, 2015
Messages
4,353
Reaction score
1,350
Points
0
Please, Log in or Register to view quote(s).
I understand a lot of this.

My beef has always been when a player believes he has a legit scholarship offer and that changes so closely to NSD... or more specifically, if it changes on NSD. But ultimately it's all fluid and the numbers are always tight, I just think it's best practice to be up front whenever possible.
 

Tidestalker

Bama Club
Joined
Jul 26, 2015
Messages
4,353
Reaction score
1,350
Points
0
Please, Log in or Register to view quote(s).
I've come to the conclusion it's all about getting the QB to the ground. The rule changes have put so much pressure on defenses it's only a matter of time until they brake in a game against elite talent. Gone are the days of just "out physicallying" (is that a word?) people... You have to have tremendous skill, technique, and frankly some good luck. Creating negative down & distances and/or game changing plays seems like the only way to stop these big time QB's anymore.

Which brings up another point - Saban was huge on affecting the QB being as good (maybe even better?) than a sack. Well the rules have made it so there are so few ways to impact the QB, it almost becomes a risk. Can't hit them low, can't even touch their head, and heaven forbid get there a touch late... so the ways to affect him have gotten so minimized. Which makes sack & sack fumbles more valuable than ever
 

ElephantStomp

Verified Member
Bama Club
Joined
Jan 29, 2008
Messages
3,302
Reaction score
271
Points
0
Saban needs to update, innovate, etc the defense (@TerryP mentioned it earlier) change things like he did the offense.

One other one is the claimed titles thing. I don’t own anything with the number on it nor will I ever
 

BamaFan334

Verified Member
Crimson Tide Club
Joined
Apr 16, 2013
Messages
7,798
Reaction score
2,430
Points
0
Please, Log in or Register to view quote(s).
I want to say we have agreed on this together before. No doubt both sides have their shenanigans, but I do wish it was more cut and dry. We're talking 15-18 year olds here, against 30-75 year olds. I would expect one side to be more mature than the other as well as more upfront. 99% of these guys are not going Pro, so we are talking about developing the future workforce as well. BUT, you also have these kids wanting to get paid and treated as professionals, so where is the line drawn? It's a toughie.
 

rocknthefreeworld

Verified Member
Century Club
Joined
Jul 27, 2012
Messages
2,444
Reaction score
1,069
Points
0
QB pressure while maintaining contain is the key right now to cutting the legs out of most offenses. That really requires a quick-out-of-the-box defensive scheme as somebody will get open at some point if you don't. We have been missing the folks who can get in there quickly and impact the play. How many times have we seen contain break down and allow the QB to scramble for the 1st because pressure was not there early enough? Or seen contain hold but the pressure never get there so someone gets open?
 

Top Bottom