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This is the least excited I've been for a spring in years.
 

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Tito Sunseri has to be the one. Saw video of yesterday’s first workout and Tito was side by side with Sark coaching up the QBs.
Tino was Quality Control at 12rc last year and since his position doesnt seem to have been determined yet, I would assume he has some type of position that will allow him to "coach" up the qb's some...
Saban often gets the titles incorrect when he refers to the staff.. (like calling Butch an intern last year) so he may be referring to GA since Vinnie is a GA and who knows what Tino's position will be.
 

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Tino was Quality Control at 12rc last year and since his position doesnt seem to have been determined yet, I would assume he has some type of position that will allow him to "coach" up the qb's some...
Saban often gets the titles incorrect when he refers to the staff.. (like calling Butch an intern last year) so he may be referring to GA since Vinnie is a GA and who knows what Tino's position will be.
Im pretty sure I saw him on video coaching up the QB's... So you're probably right. RTR
 

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C'mon man... You can still send Jalen a postcard. It's spring practice baby get fired up!!! RTR
Coming off of an absolute thrashing in the national championship, the worst loss we've had in years, tons of guys gone (NFL, transfers, etc.), tons of coaches gone, very underwhelming replacement hires. Not much to get fired up for yet.
 

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tons of guys gone (NFL, transfers, etc.), tons of coaches gone, very underwhelming replacement hires.
Care to break this statement down a little more? Who are you seeing as "underwhelming" when compared to who they replaced? And why?
 

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Pretty funny to watch our new OLB coach in action... Dude has the build of Norm from Cheers! He tells freshman Kevin Harris "That ain't fast enough.. I don't know where you're from but just letting you know" lmao
From his first stint in Tuscaloosa to his time in Tallahassee and Knoxville and we're seeing it again...Sunseri has always been one to run his drills with the attitude "the faster the better" but with a strong emphasis on "doin' it right" (which is his way of stressing assignment.)

@BamaBoyJosh Here's one of the areas I see two of the new staff hires as improvements. I'm expecting to see the Tide defense leave the "find ball, get ball" style that was taught by Kulgowski and Tosh and return more to a focused, assignment football scheme with Baker and Sunseri.
 

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To be honest, I'm excited about the Spring following that performance in Santa Clara. No way complacency can rear its ugly head after that. We know that CNS is focused and this is a staff that some have never experienced the top, so they will be hungry as well. The players will be dialed in as well to get back "to being Alabama" as well.
Personally, I like the hires of Baker and Sunseri. In Baker, we are getting a DL coach that produced some studs in Sweat and Simmons at Miss State and Sunseri, we are getting a guy who has been there and done that with BAMA before. Kelly coaching up safeties as well brings experience and knowledge as well. It looks like CNS has gotten some good "sounding boards" for Golding to learn and continue to develop from their wealth of knowledge.
 

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@BamaBoyJosh Here's one of the areas I see two of the new staff hires as improvements. I'm expecting to see the Tide defense leave the "find ball, get ball" style that was taught by Kulgowski and Tosh and return more to a focused, assignment football scheme with Baker and Sunseri.

That might help explain our LBers being out of position all year. If you don't stay home with the spread offenses they destroy you. The question is why there was no in-season adjustment to a strategy that was both chaotic and foolish?

I saw breakdown after breakdown that was obviously coming because we weren't matching up with the opponent's schemes. I've also read a few articles that stated that Golding actually called the plays on defense last year. I personally thought Golding was terrible at his job last season with the ILBers and yet Golding is the only one that comes out of it with a promotion and about the only one left with a job. This is the most unsure I've been about an Alabama defense since Nick arrived.
 

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That might help explain our LBers being out of position all year. If you don't stay home with the spread offenses they destroy you. The question is why there was no in-season adjustment to a strategy that was both chaotic and foolish?
Chaotic and foolish and we still finished 14-1? How's that possible? A lot of hyperbole here despite the Clemson game.
 

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Chaotic and foolish and we still finished 14-1? How's that possible? A lot of hyperbole here despite the Clemson game.

What did you take note of in the Arkansas game? How did you feel about the ease in which Oklahoma scored in the second half? Spread teams moved the ball all season, we often tightened up the red zone. Until we got to the playoffs and after the sooner's game we should have guessed what was coming.

The weakest part of our defense was up the middle. That's a no-no. And who would ever say that about a Nike Saban Crimson defense?
 
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I would have loved to have been part of the meeting when Nick, Sal , and Vinnie got together 6 weeks or so ago.

Sal...….what the hell went wrong with the defense

Nick.....????
 

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That might help explain our LBers being out of position all year. If you don't stay home with the spread offenses they destroy you. The question is why there was no in-season adjustment to a strategy that was both chaotic and foolish?

I saw breakdown after breakdown that was obviously coming because we weren't matching up with the opponent's schemes. I've also read a few articles that stated that Golding actually called the plays on defense last year. I personally thought Golding was terrible at his job last season with the ILBers and yet Golding is the only one that comes out of it with a promotion and about the only one left with a job. This is the most unsure I've been about an Alabama defense since Nick arrived.
A lot of hyperbole here
I've got to agree with Greg here: hyperbole has taken '18 to an extreme.

I'm curious. When it came to the plays being called on defense last season, how much do you know about how they were called in? There were issues with communication. That's been covered in depth. Yet, all of these communication issues are being heaped on Golding. Why?

There were two people responsible for getting calls and adjustments on the field last season, and in the last few games it's been said (though I've not seen it in articles though I might have missed them) that Golding was 'calling the plays.' It's a misnomer to a degree.

Just something to chew on for a second:

The OC calls in a play and the QB audibles. It's a horrible call. The OC gets the blame.
The DC calls in the play and it's changed when the offense calls their audible (let's assume it's a RPO.) That change is made from the sidelines, but it's all on the DC in the booth because he constructed the game plan (versus calling it, mind you.)
 

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I've got to agree with Greg here: hyperbole has taken '18 to an extreme.

I'm curious. When it came to the plays being called on defense last season, how much do you know about how they were called in? There were issues with communication. That's been covered in depth. Yet, all of these communication issues are being heaped on Golding. Why?

What I implied is, did Golding call the plays? Do you know the answer to that question? And how do you have issues with communications all season and it's worse at the end of the year than the beginning? Did Golding and Lupoi share these responsibilities to the point there wasn't one defining voice? I think your sensitivity is getting in the way of some folks issues with the defense.

The OC calls in a play and the QB audibles. It's a horrible call. The OC gets the blame.
The DC calls in the play and it's changed when the offense calls their audible (let's assume it's a RPO.) That change is made from the sidelines, but it's all on the DC in the booth because he constructed the game plan (versus calling it, mind you.)

I for one do NOT believe we had a talent issue with Wilson and Moses. If Wilson didn't have the intellectual dexterity to call plays, let someone else do it. If anything with their speed and talent and experience it should have been a strength. Coach Saban fired/let go a lot of assistant coaches, so it starts with coaching and probably should end there. Which brings us back to the ILBers getting beat too much, particularly with spread concepts. And again, exactly who was trying to do all this defensive communication that didn't happen from the sidelines? Which brings me back to Golding.
 

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What I implied is, did Golding call the plays? Do you know the answer to that question? And how do you have issues with communications all season and it's worse at the end of the year than the beginning? Did Golding and Lupoi share these responsibilities to the point there wasn't one defining voice? I think your sensitivity is getting in the way of some folks issues with the defense.
Sensitivity. A trait I don't possess. And certainly not when it comes to differing opinions on football.

Game plans, and who was directing those game plans, were changed in the season. That responsibility shifted over the Golding. The play calls really didn't change. It was Golding to Tosh and Mac.

Yet, there's an adjustment that happens within just about every play on the field. Getting those adjustments communicated into the defense was something Tosh struggled with: both in timing and instinct. (Hence, so many references we've seen comparing Tosh to the defenses of Pruitt.)

I for one do NOT believe we had a talent issue with Wilson and Moses. If Wilson didn't have the intellectual dexterity to call plays, let someone else do it. If anything with their speed and talent and experience it should have been a strength. Coach Saban fired/let go a lot of assistant coaches, so it starts with coaching and probably should end there. Which brings us back to the ILBers getting beat too much, particularly with spread concepts. And again, exactly who was trying to do all this defensive communication that didn't happen from the sidelines? Which brings me back to Golding.
You're mixing up a few things into one paragraph here. But, I'll manage. 😈

I don't care what team you look at, whether it be in the league or in college football, how often do you find interior linebackers with the speed and agility to cover wide receivers, running backs, and tight ends? The numbers are small to begin with. We've seen one that excelled: CJ. The other have struggled which isn't a surprise. It's a mismatch every day and one offensive coaches look to exploit. There is a talent issue at hand when there are a few, even though they are a select few, who can cover the RB's and WR's.

As to your "intellectual dexterity" comment on those two. If the breakdown happens from the booth to the sideline, are you going to fault the last in the chain?

This whole thing with Golding and the defense is very close to the opinions voiced on field goal kicking. It's always the kicker with no attention paid to who is holding, who is snapping, or how they practice. It reads to me as a singular point of view on a team game.
 

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Care to break this statement down a little more? Who are you seeing as "underwhelming" when compared to who they replaced? And why?
Every. single. one. Except maybe Sunseri. It's just the way I feel. Right or wrong, I'm severely underwhelmed by almost every coach that was brought on staff, especially on offense.
 

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I don't care what team you look at, whether it be in the league or in college football, how often do you find interior linebackers with the speed and agility to cover wide receivers, running backs, and tight ends? The numbers are small to begin with. We've seen one that excelled: CJ. The other have struggled which isn't a surprise. It's a mismatch every day and one offensive coaches look to exploit. There is a talent issue at hand when there are a few, even though they are a select few, who can cover the RB's and WR's.
I think this was a reason most were excited about Moses... He was a freakish RB prospect early in his career, turned freaking LB prospect which brought hopes of speed and athleticism. Obviously he has those qualities, but came up short of being mentioned as one of those elite Bama LB's.

That being said, I didn't expected him to be. In his short time as a frosh it seemed he had a ways to go... (frankly I thought his HS tape was missing something as well). A little more complicated than just 1 season may fix. I'd expect him to be much better next season, regardless of coaching. But then again, it also depends on his running mate and what they're capable of... So we'll see
 

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I'm severely underwhelmed by almost every coach that was brought on staff, especially on offense.
That doesn't make sense to me based on what you've said in the past. When we were discussing Locks as OC his offenses at former schools were pointed to, and appreciated, for the schemes they brought to the field.

But, even with a better career record, Sark is under impressive when Locks was? Two different standards, right?
Every. single. one. Except maybe Sunseri. It's just the way I feel. Right or wrong,
You're wrong. :devilish:

Based on what the players have said, relayed to me by a few parents, the DL room is light years better today than it was a year ago. Having two versus one defensive backs coach—with a team spending so much time with five or more defensive backs—is a move I can't can see as anything other than an improvement.

There are a few moves that I looked at as lateral, but the clock is ticking so we'll see. Right now, there's nothing but feelings to judge a few on...

And ...

"There are no feelings in football."
 
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Tyrell Shavers is back to playing just football for Alabama.

After taking a shot at baseball this spring, the redshirt sophomore wide receiver is back to focusing on strictly football.
 

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That doesn't make sense to me based on what you've said in the past. When we were discussing Locks as OC his offenses at former schools were pointed to, and appreciated, for the schemes they brought to the field.

But, even with a better career record, Sark is under impressive when Locks was? Two different standards, right?

You're wrong. :devilish:

Based on what the players have said, relayed to me by a few parents, the DL room is light years better today than it was a year ago. Having two versus one defensive backs coach—with a team spending so much time with five or more defensive backs—is a move I can't can see as anything other than an improvement.

There are a few moves that I looked at as lateral, but the clock is ticking so we'll see. Right now, there's nothing but feelings to judge a few on...

And ...

"There are no feelings in football."
My feelings on Sark aren't a secret, man. It is so pointless to get into that debate again. You know I think he is a terrible play caller.

As far as the rest goes, I will be happy to be wrong about this.
 

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