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He's got a point.

Saban: Players lose by entering NFL draft early

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Alabama coach Nick Saban warned against all but the top-ranked players leaving early for the NFL draft, saying "the person that loses in that is the player."

Saban watched seven of his underclassmen declare for this month's NFL draft, the most in his tenure at the school. However, Saban said Saturday that players who are selected in later rounds -- or not at all -- might be leaving money on the table and helping NFL teams save on salaries.

"Now, we have guys that have no draft grades, seventh-round grades, free-agent grades, fifth-round grades that are going out of the draft. And the person that loses in that is the player," Saban said after Alabama's spring game. "If you're a third-round draft pick, and we had one here last year -- I'm not going to say any names -- goes and starts for his team, so he's making third-round money, which is not that great. He'd be the first guy taken at his position this year, probably, and make $15-18 million more.

"So, the agent makes out, the club makes out, and now they've got a guy that's going to play for that kind of money for three more years, all right? And everybody out there's saying, 'Well, get to your next contract.' Well, there's obviously 50 percent of these guys never getting to a next contract. And that doesn't mean all the rest of them got to one, either."

Last year, safety Ronnie Harrison was the only Alabama player selected in the third round. He started eight games for the Jacksonville Jaguars, making 32 tackles with one interception and one sack.

Harrison was one of five Alabama underclassman to enter the 2018 draft -- tying the previous Alabama record -- along with safety Minkah Fitzpatrick, defensive tackle Daron Payne and wide receiver Calvin Ridley, who were all first-round picks, and running back Bo Scarbrough, who went in the seventh round.
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Saban said the increased willingness to turn pro early has affected his recruiting process to include discussion of life after football.

"So, it's the culture and it's the trend, and I've actually changed how I talk to recruits now," Saban said. "I tell every recruit that I talk to the reason that you're going to college is to prepare yourself for the day you can't play football. I think we have a lot of people way back in high school, all right, that look at college as a conduit to get to the NFL. And look, I am 100 percent NFL. I'm 100 percent guys having careers, all right? But people have to be smart about the business decisions they make relative to the NFL because it is all business.

"When people make emotional decisions, they're going to have to suffer some really difficult consequences for themselves in the future. Because you don't have to go out for the draft early. You can come back and play. We've had six or seven guys here that had second- or third-round grades that became top-15 and first-round draft picks and made a significant amount of money doing that, so there's some really good examples of guys that did it that way."
There will be 103 underclassmen eligible to be selected in this year's draft, the second most ever behind the record 106 last year, when only 69 underclassmen ended up drafted.

"Not just our players -- there's a significant amount of players that are not making good business decisions about what they do," Saban said. "And yeah, it affects our team, but our team turns over more quickly. We just have to have more better young guys that can go out there and learn how to play and provide depth for the team. And it's not going to be an excuse for what kind of quality we put on the field. We've just got to do a better job of coaching because you've got to do a better job of developing young players because they're going to have to play more quickly."
 

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He's been saying this for years.
A small part of me was disappointed to see BamaInsider use this as click bait. It's far from a rant, and it is certainly not deserving of a tweet shouting it's a must watch.


FWIW, Andrew Bone has been on his honeymoon so this isn't one of ideas.
 

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When only 2/3 of players get drafted that leave early....problem....need to be sure
But...if you have hard needs....a dollar today is more important than 3 tomorrow...
 

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Mark Barron is one of the few that signed a massive free-agent deal with the Rams and even after all that loyalty and hard work and short career, they were trying to get the guy to take less. That's the NFL. So they released Mark, hoping he cleared waivers and they could resign him for millions less. They were wrong this time. After he's gone they continue to profess their sincere love for everything he brought to the club with toughness, smarts, and team attitude but obviously had no intention of living up to Barron's free-agent deal.

Most of these Bama players won't go into the league with Mark's credentials, nor will they survive their rookie contract, even if they all are drafted. They ain't listening.
 

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Kirby is on the same line of thinking as Nick...……..Bama is going to face the same issue after this season. Hell the freshmen class will overtake the senior class as being the more important portio

ATHENS, Ga. -- Georgia hosted it's annual Pro Day today for 20 players leaving the program, be it because of exhausting their eligibility or opting to test the NFL Draft waters a year early. While the focus was on the players, Kirby Smart did have an opportunity to speak with the media where he addressed the reality of college football these days: teams full of youth.





"I think it is a trend, and I think it is going to continue to be a trend in college football for every team to deal with and every team deals with it differently," Smart said. "Our answer is to make sure we have good players in our program so that we are not having to just play true freshmen, but because of the way it is, you're going to have a young team all the time."





Last season, Georgia was one of the nation's youngest teams with 52 of their 84 scholarship players being in their first or second year of eligibility. Only 15 of the scholarship players were seniors.






While that number is upped to 18 this season with the addition of two graduate transfers, the number of early enrollees, 14, is also the highest that Georgia has seen in quite some time. Smart isn't quite sure that there is a solution to the growing youth in college football.





"There's not a lot you can do," Smart said. "Some of that stuff is out of your control. How well does a kid play as a junior? What kind of grades does he get? What kind of choices does he have to make for his family? Everybody's in a different situation and you manage everyone differently. You just do the best job that you can to handle it, and then you move on."







 

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Hard to disagree. Simple statistics show he is 1000% correct. Even bigger issue in basketball. After high school you have a very small window to get higher level i struction from a college staff to set up the next 40-50 years of your life and half of these guys choose their immediate future over their long term future, and it most always costs them.
 

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Ronnie Harrison fires back at Nick Saban's NFL Draft take


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@Rharr_15

https://twitter.com/Rharr_15/status/1114882905183006721

Coaches get so Butt Hurt Now Days About a Kid Making a Decision to live out his dreams and Go Pro. Makes me think do you really care about the success of the kid or how well your program performs?
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#KeepMyNameOutYaMouth #Bama #Saban #GodGotIt

I notice Ronnie didn't say he was wrong. Ronnie realizing now after leading his team if he had waited a year he would be much richer. Also dreams are for kids. Adults make real decisions. Also if there was anyones opinion I would take on making money.....It would be CNS
 

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800,000 a year and about the same signing bonus....................


Saban was right , again .
 

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Ronnie Harrison fires back at Nick Saban's NFL Draft take


Ronnie Harrison II

@Rharr_15

https://twitter.com/Rharr_15/status/1114882905183006721

Coaches get so Butt Hurt Now Days About a Kid Making a Decision to live out his dreams and Go Pro. Makes me think do you really care about the success of the kid or how well your program performs?
🤷🏿‍♂️
💯
#KeepMyNameOutYaMouth #Bama #Saban #GodGotIt

I notice Ronnie didn't say he was wrong. Ronnie realizing now after leading his team if he had waited a year he would be much richer. Also dreams are for kids. Adults make real decisions. Also if there was anyones opinion I would take on making money.....It would be CNS
Well said.

The LAST safety taken in the first round of 2018 (28th pick) was given over 9.5 MILLION over four years GUARANTEED money, annual contract payout 2.67 million.

Ronnie Harrison was drafted 93 after being given a 2nd round draft grade. Guaranteed money of 803K, his signing bonus, with annual salary $847K. NO OTHER GUARANTEE. Average NFL life for secondary 2.8 years, average NFL player 3.3 years. Do the math Ronnie!!!

So who's really butthurt Ronnie? You or Saban????

Guy is STILL immature. How desperate for money did he have to be? The ONLY reason for going early that makes sense is avoiding injury during the senior year. His contract for 2019 would have been better than Edmunds' because salaries go up yearly and he would have been taken higher.

Way to go Ronnie. Rag on your former coach instead of admitting the Jags got you on the cheap! Grow up.
 
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I liked Ronnie and he did mature some as he was in the program but he always had a leaning towards being a little hot headed. Bottom line is if you are making a mature business decision he would probably make several million dollars more over the course of his career. Seems like Ronnie wants to make it personal and it is not. Simple business math.
 

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JMO but both Nick and Ronnie are correct. Nick is speaking from the business side by those outside of the 1st round that MIGHT return and show enough to get into the 1st round even though an injury could really hurt them. I believe Ronnie and others understand that returning would give a big shot at making much more money but they don't care about that view and want whatever money comes their way. Ronnie and others have ever right to make the decision. I doubt Nick and Ronnie will exchange Christmas cards this year.
 

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Disappointed in Ronnie and his comment. Shows that he didn’t even bother to listen to the 3-4 minute clip. Coach was and has always been looking out in a Kids best interest.
 

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Disappointed in Ronnie and his comment. Shows that he didn’t even bother to listen to the 3-4 minute clip. Coach was and has always been looking out in a Kids best interest.
Ronnie never mastered controlling his emotions and thinking things through before speaking. He had passion and that is probably what makes him good at what he does but emotional responses are not what is called for in all situations.

I expect age and experience will help in this area. I hope I am a lot wiser in what and how I say things at 54 than I was at 24. May be debatable if you ask the wife:)...
 

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Jacobs originally chimes in, then I guess he realized the mistake and deleted them almost as quickly as he sent them. When I click on one of the individual tweets, it says "failed to load" and they're not showing up on his timeline.

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Really a stupid debate.....and opposing recruiting battles think they can use it,...
Bama will have #1 class again next year...BAM....
Its true what he said..you stay you get 3-4 times the guarenteed money by being higher draft choice..whats the debate...
Player wants or needs now...willing to settle for less...thats ok too
Both right
 

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