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    The following graph clearly shows the top killers in America. Alcohol kills 10 time the number of people as do firearms. Medical errors approach 20 times as many. Non firearm homicides (knives, hammers, clubs) kill more than firearms. Where is the indignant outrage and screams to outlaw booze, hammers, knives, clubs, etc.? You won't hear any because there is an agenda. Get the guns. The second amendment isn't about sporting use of firearms. It is about keeping the government in check. That was the founders intent and a cursory examination of writings on the subject from the era will show it.
    Should anyone tell you that it isn't about taking your guns they are either ignorant or a liar. The government doesn't give a shit about saving lives, it is about control. Save lives by outlawing tobacco. Save lives by outlawing alcohol......how did that work last time? The criminals really obeyed that one didn't they?

    Why has the Social Security Administration, Dept. Homeland Security, TSA all purchased over 1.3 billion rounds of hollow point ammo in the past year? This ammo is outlawed in warfare, it is meant to be used domestically. There is an agenda. All this from an administration that gave us operation Fast & Furious. You do remember the illegal gun running scheme conducted by Obama's bunch that got firearms into Mexican drug cartels hands? One of our own border agents was killed by one of these guns.

    http://marketdailynews.com/2013/01/0...of-ammunition/

    https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportun...source=message

    http://ivn.us/2012/08/19/rand-paul-t...let-purchases/
    All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party - Mao Tse Tung

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    Just FYI, regarding the Mao quote. The actual quotation is:

    "Every communist must grasp the truth, 'Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.' Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party. Yet, having guns, we can create Party organizations, as witness the powerful Party organizations which the Eighth Route Army has created in northern China. We can also create cadres, create schools, create culture, create mass movements. Everything in Yenan has been created by having guns. All things grow out of the barrel of a gun."

    Just thought it might be interesting to throw out there.

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    I also think the big difference with drug/tobacco/alcohol abuse is that it is chosen. Firearm homicide is not. Nobody chooses to be shot to death, but people knowingly choose to consume drugs that can kill them. Despite this, we pump loads of money into no smoking ads, no smoking policies, etc etc. Just food for thought.

    On the lighter side of things, 'unintentional injuries' can be bizarre. I remember reading somewhere that dozens of folks die falling into toilets. I'm sure it's a bad way to go, but it must be embarrassing/tragically hilarious to have to tell people "my husband died falling onto a toilet", or whatever :shock:

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    Somehow I dont see any Weed deaths on that graph... why is weed illegal again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman37 View Post
    Somehow I dont see any Weed deaths on that graph... why is weed illegal again?
    Because the American public allows the government to dictate all aspects of our lives.

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    More than twice as many killed in automobile accidents. Let's outlaw cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychojoe View Post
    More than twice as many killed in automobile accidents. Let's outlaw cars.
    And since unintentional falls are on the increase, we really need to put everyone in a wheelchair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman37 View Post
    Somehow I dont see any Weed deaths on that graph... why is weed illegal again?
    drug policy is tied to monetary policy, foreign policy, energy policy, IP (intellectual property-Big Pharma), etc. it's a part of a confluence of international policies that maintain and support the US empire of multinational corporations and vassal states/dictators.

    but domestically, it's all about the money. check out these links which include some very candid interviews.

    Interview #1 with a retired cop

    Interview #2 with former US marshall and DEA agent

    Interview #3 with a retired deputy chief of police for the LAPD and a retiree from Department of Homeland Security

    News segment about HSBC's involvement (among other big banks) in drug cartels, terrorism, and money laundering

    NBC article about HSBC's drug ties

    Western banks 'reaping billions from Colombian cocaine trade'

    The Top 5 Special Interests Lobbying to Keep Pot Illegal

    The House I Live In - must see documentary

    How to Make Money Selling Drugs - another documentary

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    The funny thing is, there really isn't a conspiracy. No one wants to take guns away, except a small few on the fringe. The thing is, muskets were the guns when our constitution was written. Now, we have nukes that fit into suitcases for the last 60+ years. What we do have to decide is where the line is drawn, what is the meaning of "arms". Is a AR really more dangerous than a handgun? What about a handgun that can vaporize it's target? Technology is a tool to teach us simple wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiloh View Post
    The funny thing is, there really isn't a conspiracy. No one wants to take guns away, except a small few on the fringe.
    What if this "small fringe" occupied the government?


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