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    Default Much ado about Notre Dame's 5-1 record against Alabama

    Much is being made about Notre Dames 5-1 record against Alabama in games that all took place over 25 years ago and some that go as far back as 40 years.

    Here are the facts concerning those games for those of you that weren't around during that period that might help you understand the circumstances and meaning of those games.

    First let me begin by saying that 2 of the 6 games we played against Notre Dame were for the National Championship. Those games took place in 1973 and 1975 in which Alabama lost to the Irish by a single point in 1973 and 2 points in 1975.

    The other games were played in 1976 in one of Alabama's rare down years under Paul Bryant where we lost to the irish by 4 points at Notre Dame. The 1980 game was played just before Coach Bryant retired and died where we lost by just a single touchdown.

    The 2 later games were in a rare home and home series post Coach Bryant in which we won at home with Pay Perkins as coach in 1986 and the loss came after Perkins left Alabama for Tampa Bay and we played at Notre Dame in Bill Curry's first year at Alabama in 1987.


    The bottom line is that the 4 most important games that took place during the Bryant period were all lost by a grand total average of just 3.5 points per game.

    That is why this game means so much and is so exciting to us Old-timers, it is a chance to set things right for Alabama and Coach Bryant.




    Date Opponent (record) Result Score Site
    11/14/1987 @ Notre Dame (8-4) L 6 37
    10/4/1986 vs. Notre Dame (5-6) W 28 10 @ Birmingham, AL
    11/15/1980 vs. Notre Dame (9-2-1) L 0 7 @ Birmingham, AL
    11/13/1976 @ Notre Dame (9-3) L 18 21
    1/1/1975 vs. Notre Dame (10-2) L 11 13 @ Miami, FL Orange Bowl
    12/31/1973 vs. Notre Dame (11-0) L 23 24 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
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    There's nothing trivial about the loses we had to Notre Dame in my mind.

    No bearing on this year, granted. But it's far, far from something I consider to be a waste of time considering.

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    Been sticking in my craw all of my life.

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    Meh, we were 1-7-1 against Texas :)

    Our record shouldn't impact how the team prepares...

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    Quote Originally Posted by planomateo View Post
    Meh, we were 1-7-1 against Texas :)

    Our record shouldn't impact how the team prepares...
    Our wanting to think about it and want a W over Notre Dame in the midst of a championship run?

    Hey, neither you or I are putting the pads on!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryP View Post
    Our wanting to think about it and want a W over Notre Dame in the midst of a championship run?

    Hey, neither you or I are putting the pads on!

    oops, hit edit vs reply (damn iPhone...just kidding)

    I guess I'm saying, who cares what our record is against ND. It didn't have anything to do with the outcome of the Texas game. Its a statistic that should have no bearing on the outcome of the game - unless the coaches spin the we have a record of 1-5 against ND.

    I hope we give ND a heavy dose of Gump.

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    Default Much ado about Notre Dame's 5-1 record against Alabama

    In 1966, Alabama finished the season at 11-0. It was the year the Bear was trying for a 3-peat. Notre Dame and Michigan State finished 9-0-1. They tied each other during the regular season. Alabama was ranked #1 preseason. At the end of the year the powers that be ranked Notre Dame national champions, Michigan State #2 and Alabama #3. We were, of course ROBBED! A good slogan for this year would be, "Remember '66!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcracker View Post
    In 1966, Alabama finished the season at 11-0. It was the year the Bear was trying for a 3-peat. Notre Dame and Michigan State finished 9-0-1. They tied each other during the regular season. Alabama was ranked #1 preseason. At the end of the year the powers that be ranked Notre Dame national champions, Michigan State #2 and Alabama #3. We were, of course ROBBED! A good slogan for this year would be, "Remember '66!"
    Ah yes, "The Missing Ring", one of the very best books I ever read...

    Here is how Notre Dame ranks among the nation over the last 20 years:

    Period: Last 20
    Rank
    Team
    Total
    Points
    Win. Pct.
    Points
    Schedule
    Points
    Nat. Champs
    Points
    Big 4 Bowl
    Points
    1
    Florida
    1322.38
    538.57
    498.81
    150.00
    135.00
    2
    Nebraska
    1271.40
    527.73
    488.66
    150.00
    105.00
    3
    Florida St.
    1248.38
    522.11
    476.27
    100.00
    150.00
    4
    Southern California
    1208.33
    490.89
    517.44
    100.00
    100.00
    5
    Ohio St.
    1154.62
    539.58
    435.03
    50.00
    130.00
    6
    Oklahoma
    1130.37
    491.11
    494.27
    50.00
    95.00
    7
    Alabama
    1126.54
    439.39
    472.15
    150.00
    65.00
    8
    Louisiana St.
    1125.38
    472.78
    482.59
    100.00
    70.00
    9
    Texas
    1097.88
    510.36
    462.52
    50.00
    75.00
    10
    Michigan
    1084.94
    492.54
    452.40
    50.00
    90.00
    11
    Miami (FL)
    1055.25
    500.00
    420.25
    50.00
    85.00
    12
    Tennessee
    1050.50
    490.00
    475.50
    50.00
    35.00
    13
    Auburn (AL)
    1043.91
    483.74
    480.17
    50.00
    30.00
    14
    Oregon
    1032.00
    481.78
    490.22
    0.00
    60.00
    15
    Georgia
    1006.28
    487.75
    478.53
    0.00
    40.00
    16
    Virginia Tech
    983.92
    516.73
    377.19
    0.00
    90.00
    17
    Mount Union (OH)
    977.38
    670.11
    157.28
    150.00
    0.00
    18
    Notre Dame (IN)
    962.76
    436.07
    476.70
    0.00
    50.00

    Below Mount Union?
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    Here is how Notre Dame ranks over the last 5 years:

    Period: Last 5
    Rank
    Team
    Total
    Points
    Win. Pct.
    Points
    Schedule
    Points
    Nat. Champs
    Points
    Big 4 Bowl
    Points
    1
    Alabama
    969.74
    403.23
    426.51
    100.00
    40.00
    2
    Louisiana St.
    897.32
    395.52
    426.80
    50.00
    25.00
    3
    Oregon
    885.53
    401.52
    449.01
    0.00
    35.00
    4
    Florida
    868.79
    373.13
    415.65
    50.00
    30.00
    5
    Oklahoma
    864.47
    389.71
    439.76
    0.00
    35.00
    6
    Southern California
    849.55
    390.63
    428.93
    0.00
    30.00
    7
    Auburn (AL)
    813.08
    338.46
    409.62
    50.00
    15.00
    8
    Texas
    812.04
    369.23
    417.81
    0.00
    25.00
    9
    Oklahoma St.
    802.04
    369.23
    417.81
    0.00
    15.00
    10
    Georgia
    800.08
    340.91
    444.17
    0.00
    15.00

    63
    Notre Dame (IN)
    564.43
    253.97
    310.46
    0.00
    0.00


    Need I say more?
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    And last but not least____ All TIME!


    All Time Team Rankings

    Rank
    Team
    Total
    Points
    Win. Pct.
    Points
    Schedule
    Points
    Nat. Champs
    Points
    Big 4 Bowl
    Points
    1
    Alabama
    2396.24
    709.86
    846.39
    510.00
    330.00
    2
    Notre Dame (IN)
    2284.98
    730.96
    844.02
    475.00
    235.00
    3
    Southern California
    2234.19
    703.32
    780.87
    395.00
    355.00
    4
    Oklahoma
    2185.75
    715.31
    800.44
    350.00
    320.00
    5
    Michigan
    2135.78
    734.14
    886.64
    235.00
    280.00
    6
    Ohio St.
    2089.31
    713.15
    801.16
    280.00
    295.00
    7
    Texas
    2067.87
    714.29
    848.59
    200.00
    305.00
    8
    Nebraska
    2057.22
    703.45
    803.77
    250.00
    300.00
    9
    Louisiana St.
    1937.66
    646.88
    840.78
    165.00
    285.00
    10
    Tennessee
    1828.23
    687.03
    781.20
    130.00
    230.00

    http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data...m_rankings.php

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