vj34
07-25-2005, 09:18 PM
I just thought that yall might find this interesting I just found it and copy and pasted. Read it dont just get mad and ignore it.
>Alabama claims 12 national titles...Let's give them a closer
>examination.....
>
>1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with
>Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his
>system in 1927. So bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn't
>exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another
>incredible retroactive NC.
>
>The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their
>final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 - 1964 and in 1966 and 1967.
>They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 -
>Current.
>
>1926 National Championship - Alabama claims they share this one with 3
>other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms
>Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!
>
>1930 National Championship - The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre
>Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre
>Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system!
>He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!
>
>1934 National Championship - Alabama says they share this with two other
>teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus.
>Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was
>a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first
>appeared in 1946!
>
>1941 National Championship - This is a complete joke. The AP ranked
>Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top
>20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards
>it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the
>SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!
>
>1961 National Championship - Finally a legitimate NC.
>
>1964 National Championship - While the AP did award the NC to Bama
>(10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in
>their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.
>
>1965 National Championship - The AP gave this to Bama. That year there
>were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St
>10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.
>
>1973 National Championship - AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game
>loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met
>Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better
>records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number
>one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no
>shame in claiming it of course.
>
>1978 National Championship - AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even
>though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that
>year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.
>
>1979 National Championship - Their second legitimate NC. Their first
>Unanimous NC.
>
>1992 National Championship - Their third legitimate NC. Their second
>Unanimous NC.
>
>You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 12 NCs.
>The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were
>played. These weren't consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had
>their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs where given before
>bowl games that Bama lost. Using Alabama logic, Auburn could claim four
>national championships. But when bammer's brag they like to say they
>have twelve and Auburn has one. How silly. The NCAA recognizes 6 NCs for
>Bama and there are only two NCs that Bama has unanimously. You can't
>find an Auburn site claiming four national championships but there are
>plenty Bama sites claiming twelve. Debunking the Alabama National
>Championship myths.
>Alabama claims 12 national titles...Let's give them a closer
>examination.....
>
>1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with
>Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his
>system in 1927. So bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn't
>exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another
>incredible retroactive NC.
>
>The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their
>final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 - 1964 and in 1966 and 1967.
>They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 -
>Current.
>
>1926 National Championship - Alabama claims they share this one with 3
>other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms
>Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!
>
>1930 National Championship - The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre
>Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre
>Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system!
>He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!
>
>1934 National Championship - Alabama says they share this with two other
>teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus.
>Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was
>a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first
>appeared in 1946!
>
>1941 National Championship - This is a complete joke. The AP ranked
>Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top
>20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards
>it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the
>SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!
>
>1961 National Championship - Finally a legitimate NC.
>
>1964 National Championship - While the AP did award the NC to Bama
>(10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in
>their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.
>
>1965 National Championship - The AP gave this to Bama. That year there
>were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St
>10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.
>
>1973 National Championship - AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game
>loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met
>Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better
>records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number
>one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no
>shame in claiming it of course.
>
>1978 National Championship - AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even
>though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that
>year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.
>
>1979 National Championship - Their second legitimate NC. Their first
>Unanimous NC.
>
>1992 National Championship - Their third legitimate NC. Their second
>Unanimous NC.
>
>You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 12 NCs.
>The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were
>played. These weren't consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had
>their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs where given before
>bowl games that Bama lost. Using Alabama logic, Auburn could claim four
>national championships. But when bammer's brag they like to say they
>have twelve and Auburn has one. How silly. The NCAA recognizes 6 NCs for
>Bama and there are only two NCs that Bama has unanimously. You can't
>find an Auburn site claiming four national championships but there are
>plenty Bama sites claiming twelve. Debunking the Alabama National
>Championship myths.